Prop 8 = Hate

Protests all over the country occurred yesterday speaking out about Prop 8.  Below is footage from the Minneapolis protest.  Its not just about marriage.  Its about equality.  Your friends and family and co-workers just want equality, they want and deserve to have the civil rights of those who are not gay.

 

And just in case you think that Minneapolis is just to liberal, check out this link for more protest footage from across the nation

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4 responses to “Prop 8 = Hate

  1. culturepress

    Thanks for posting this! I was looking for pics and info about the Minneapolis rally.

  2. It is amazing that the hate label sticks to Christians when we actually take a live and let live approach to gays. We just don’t like it when they shove their agenda down our throats.

    If you want to disarm the liberals, just point out that if homosexuality could be detected in utero that you would be against those abortions, and ask them if they would agree to make those abortions illegal.

    I have yet to find a heterosexual liberal who doesn’t love abortion rights more than gays. So this argument is a great way to make them squirm and to point out how ridiculous it is for them to label you as a homophobe. After all, they think it should be legal to destroy gays in the womb (even hypothetically) while you think they should be protected.

    The most I’ve ever seen them say in response is that I’m against all abortions, so specific protections for gays isn’t meaningful. But I point out that if this was the only restriction made that I’d favor it.

    It also forces them to reconsider their pro-abortion views, because it points out how the unborn are real human beings. That is one reason they fight any exceptions, even for gender selection abortions. They know that once you concede the humanity of the unborn for any reason then other abortions wouldn’t be justified.

  3. Wow, that Neil guy totally missed the point.

    “Live and let live”? Really? Because last time I checked, me and my partner’s desire to get married does not affect your ability to preach the word of Christ in any way.

    Your bringing in abortion as an argument against gay marriage only compounds your overwhelming ignorance. Because I’m pro-choice, I’m also for eugenics? What a ridiculous jump! I am pro-choice because I believe women should be able to make choices regarding their reproductive rights for themselves, instead of having some self-righteous Christian blogger do it for them.

    However, this has little if anything to do with the right of gays to get married. My marriage does not affect your ability to be anti-choice, it does not affect your ability to be discriminatory, and it does not affect your ability to keep gay marriage out of your church if it so chooses. All it does is allow the LGBT community to enjoy the same rights as every other person.

    The thing that I am certain of, and what allows me to go to bed KNOWING that laws such as Prop 8 will be overturned in my lifetime, is that the law is fully on my side. You, sir, are misguided in your argument and appear to lack any understanding of anything having to do with gay marriage. However, your anti-choice arguments are just as offensive.

    Don’t fret, though. Now that we’ve got the most pro-choice president to ever take office and at least a 7 person majority in the senate, I feel very good about the direction that this country is taking. You and your friends will not be allowed to spread the hate for much longer, or at least no one will be listening.

  4. “Because last time I checked, me and my partner’s desire to get married does not affect your ability to preach the word of Christ in any way.”

    That wasn’t my point, but since you brought it up it is an inevitable outcome. Granting Civil Rights to sexual preferences will make the state the enemy of the church.

    When talking to non-Christians, though, I don’t use religious arguments.

    No one was preventing these people from loving each other before, or even getting married. Government primarily gets involved in marriages because by nature and design marriages produce the next generation. Gay couples can never provide a mother and a father to a child, so why encourage and affirm those relationships? Infertile or deliberately childless couples don’t invalidate that in any way.

    “You and your friends will not be allowed to spread the hate for much longer, or at least no one will be listening.”

    I am sad that you either 1) really believe the “hate” schtick or 2) use that ad hominem argument so reflexively.

    Yes, you all may win out. That doesn’t mean it is right. Slavery used to be illegal, yet it was wrong. Abortion kills over one million innocent human beings each year and it is legal. Legal does not equal moral or common sensical.

    In some ways I hope you do get your oxymoronic “same sex marriage” validated by the gov’t. Then maybe you’ll realize that regardless of what affirmation people throw out you, whether authentic or just the politically correct kind, that you still have a void.

    “I am pro-choice because I believe women should be able to make choices regarding their reproductive rights for themselves, instead of having some self-righteous Christian blogger do it for them.”

    How about completing the sentence: Pro-choice to crush and dismember an innocent human being.

    Just because you support that “right” and I don’t doesn’t make me “self-righteous.”

    BTW, authentic Christians are by definition not self-righteous. We realize we are sinners in need of a Savior and cannot please God on our own. The truly self-righteous are the non-Christians who think their own righteousness is good enough.

    “All it does is allow the LGBT community to enjoy the same rights as every other person.”

    That statement is false. I know that the “rights” talk makes for a good sound bite, but what rights are we talking about? The right to relationships? You’ve got them. The right to be married? Uh, sorry, but you already have the right to marry a living being of the opposite sex of the same species under certain conditions (i.e., no incest, bestiality, polygamy or necrophilia). And who are you to pull up the drawbridge after gays get these “rights” and leave the other groups hanging? Do you hate them? Why else would you oppose their rights?

    Peace,
    Neil

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